bots

i havent played on a server with bots until now, but they kept getting stuck just running around in a circle wouldnt do anything else so i would just gib them then they would be ok again is that a normal thing for bots to do?

very normal... it happens alot becuase they get confused alot like leafs does....

so th easiest thing to do is to restart them ( I.e gib shoot shuffle watever) so they can find their way

also i was wondering if it is possible to reset the bots xp cause some of the medics are becomin somewhat invincible

they have an xpreset every week jus tlike anybody else

ok cool

I like to push the bots around......they don't get all upset like humans do.....

lol

I like em because they give medic whenever you ask.

{AR}wulfman wrote:

I like em because they give medic whenever you ask.

they give it without asking to

yes, folks shld understand that the bots can be called and they will respond to certain things. if you call for medic, a medic bot will usually respond. the same with ammo. and on some servers the engi's will also come to you if you do a v 2 4 (we need an engineer!). i dont think the engi's can be called on our version, though.

{AR}wulfman wrote:

I like em because they give medic whenever you ask.

sometimes...i usually have to say "Need a Medic!" about 2-3 times before they actually come and half the time they don't come at all anyway especially when i'm wounded on the ground.

Omnibots use waypoints to get around maps.

A guide to making waypoint files is on http://www.omni-bot.com/wiki/index.php?title=Omni-bot_Waypointing, and there should be files on the net for most of the common maps.

btw. might want to use this flag: http://et.tjw.org/etpub/docs/#omnibot_flags

A slightly different approach was tried in experimental bots for etpro bobots which, in addition to waypoints, were designed to learn from human controlled players as well. Too bad that one didn't really get finished.

so MZ ur saying we can basically manipulate them to do whatever we say?

No, they're still be deciding - whether to go for the objective, to heal you etc. But you can show them the way.

oh ok got it

yah they do seem to get a little confused sometimes

also Eagle should make it so taht they disconnect when players join in their palce, that way players can populate the server easier instead of having 4 peeps and 10 bots[code][quote]


Bobots are ready

{AR}Schickles wrote:

also Eagle should make it so taht they disconnect when players join in their palce, that way players can populate the server easier instead of having 4 peeps and 10 bots

yeah but we havent had that much luck yet with new guests finding thwir way into the server...i dont usually see many members on at once either.

if eagle can program those bobots, it would be nice

I can play again on saturday, too much work on my new work lately

can there be more bots programmed?

i was online in a 2vs3 fight with some people spec, so it would be more fun if there were more people or bots online at that moment. So spec people don't count as real people

btw can the bots be named, so we could tag them.
so we can recognize them quicker

because sometimes they end up in a wrong corner, and when you have to !listplayers first to see if it's a bot or not, they are all whitenames, so it's difficult to reckognize them n sight.

Yesterday i had to gib them a couple of times because they were stuck againt a wall.


On the other hand, playing with these bots is a little bit sad, because some people only care about flaming them or killing as much as possible, while these bots are actually more object-oriented, which is more fun.

lol.. so all the white name players on today were bots? :O

Well the bots are usually named "[BOT] something", but someone decided naming them so that they aren't recognized would confuse people and made them believe they are actual players and join the server.

BarryBonds wrote:

lol.. so all the white name players on today were bots? :O

all the white name players with a ping of 0 are bots yes

any news on the bobots?

dont think so, when they stuck i just !gib!

bots mhm...
always giving medicine and ammo even if you dont need
if u say "follow me" they're following you
enemy's snipers sux puf 1 hit you are dead cause u dont even had time to look arround
but player vs. bot (like me and spinaw mp 40 vs. thompson battle 1 vs 1) then they're sux cause dunno how to jump and crawl in battle
mm... better is to fight with players, the one or major zem granade school or spinaw's mp40 head shots mode
or Remco's flames :D its reall {AR}
let bots fight alone...

it's sad, but bots are needed on our server because there is only limited players
and solobattles are no fun

My suggestion would be to use small maps.
50% of all bots got lost (stuck) somewhere in the map.

!gib

Sure, but one player is needed who go through the list and !gib, !gib, !gib, ..., instead of playing.

Major Zeman wrote:

A slightly different approach was tried in experimental bots for etpro bobots which, in addition to waypoints, were designed to learn from human controlled players as well. Too bad that one didn't really get finished.

Approach where artificial intelligence can learn from human players can be good and may yield best results ... if you have enough training data. That mean, the bots have to observe the humans playing the map for quite a long time to learn some tactics ....

i h8 playing with bots cause its less socializing, i like to play with real people cause they are....whats the word....REAL! They talk and stuff and can be asses which makes TKing even funner

Well, of course playing with bots won't be as good as playing with real people but bots can be useful for balancing - if one side is weaker, toss them one or two bots. Or if there are not many people (like 5 people), fill it with bots to 4 vs 4 ...

Especially things like 1 vs 2 or 2 vs 3 are quite unbalanced and one bot on weaker side would fix that pretty well ...

That of course assumes at least somewhat intelligent bot - unfortunately I don't know of such one ...

bilbo wrote:

That of course assumes at least somewhat intelligent bot - unfortunately I don't know of such one ...

Hey are you calling me stupid there?

is my screen damaged? i see everywhere messages with nothing in it??

Two more annoing things about bots.
The rifle nades are too tuff. Bots shoot them over many miles and kill you. Real ppl would be very lucky or skillfull to do so every time.

When you hide somewhere secretly on a good spot as sniper and hit someone, that bot immediately shoots back and hit you. When you are in his back the bots turn around and do so. A human wouldn`t even see you.

me would..i feel where u sit..lol

wulf, yes, sniping against bots is pretty futile. and the rifle nades are really bad, but you missed one other type; if you arty a bot and it lives, it will also shoot back at you. now, go figure the logic in that one

then engi bots are invisible with the rifle nades i was siting in the bunker high up and he ws way down at the beach and he shot a nade and it hit me and i died

Hmm...I must really be playing too little. Didn't notice I would be dying too much from bot rnades...

{AR}wulfman wrote:

Two more annoing things about bots.
The rifle nades are too tuff. Bots shoot them over many miles and kill you. Real ppl would be very lucky or skillfull to do so every time.

When you hide somewhere secretly on a good spot as sniper and hit someone, that bot immediately shoots back and hit you. When you are in his back the bots turn around and do so. A human wouldn`t even see you.

Yes indeed, they can hit you with a mp-40 ore thompson over a large distance. . If you play baserace with bots they can shoot you from out of their own camp and you even can't see them with a binoc ore k43 scope.. that's annoying sometimes!.

Dr00pienl wrote:

{AR}wulfman wrote:

Two more annoing things about bots.
The rifle nades are too tuff. Bots shoot them over many miles and kill you. Real ppl would be very lucky or skillfull to do so every time.

When you hide somewhere secretly on a good spot as sniper and hit someone, that bot immediately shoots back and hit you. When you are in his back the bots turn around and do so. A human wouldn`t even see you.

Yes indeed, they can hit you with a mp-40 ore thompson over a large distance. . If you play baserace with bots they can shoot you from out of their own camp and you even can't see them with a binoc ore k43 scope.. that's annoying sometimes!.

Even in maps like minas tirith they kill ya while sniping from the wall...

perhaps but they have their dull moments as well seems like a challenge to beat one 1 vs 1 in close range because they go for the head.

the ultimate humans vs bots strategy is make them use all their ammo then let them run around while you complete the objective.

lol, i like that solution, zeman

haha thats a good trick nevber though of that

yep great idea

Bots = boring.....




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also, as far as i'm concerned, anyone with the ability can !gib a bot without asking me, if i happen to be the ranking AR member on the server at the time. just gib away if that bot is stuck or acting screwy.