Need Some Help Fast

lolz ok they problem is i got into an argument with a vegetarian about eating meat

while i was joking around about eating meat is good and vegetarians are killing cows by not eating them (i know, the person i was discussing to wasn't so smart), wel the problem is i am not so fair in a discussion and i like to bullshit around. But now she wants to keep on discussing about it and she went on searching millions of pro vege arguments and wants to kick my butt


so please, if you know any argument why it is morraly oke to eat meat, ^^please tell me:)
(i said morraly not the enviroment aspects of it.


i know i am stupid

eat what u want. its good if we got different ppl

Say to her she's right.
You cant win when she searched up "millions of pro vega arguments".

Ninjadeer wrote:

Say to her she's right.
You cant win when she searched up "millions of pro vega arguments".

hes got a good point

We are top of the food chain mate and if we were not meant to eat animals then why do they taste so damn good!

Here is a lol t-shirt site about it.

Ninjadeer wrote:

Say to her she's right.
You cant win when she searched up "millions of pro vega arguments".

Yup admit defeat and humbly bow down and kiss her feet!
Agruments like these (simular to for example religion) cannot be won as both sides will usualy hold their grounds.

The Human system as all carnivors is designed by nature to utilize animal protein not plant protein

Ninjadeer wrote:

Say to her she's right.
You cant win when she searched up "millions of pro vega arguments".

i agree...she will just keep going on and on..and you will keep going on and on too..just end it right now and say she is right.

Well, you just cannot win it. I got a buddy, he is 6 feet 10. He is going on his 300 pounds and he doesn't eat any meat, cheese, whatnot! He doesn't even eat bread because eggs are needed to bake it! We had a talk about this topic. I never hear so many pro arguments to be a vegan. I just simply can't... if it has face - I will eat it!
Personal "choice and freedom" is your biggest argument here.

...and just hope she won't want to turn you into one, too!

Here's an argument. Without the protein from eating meat our brains never would have developed into what they are now and she wouldn't be able to formulate an argument because she wouldn't be able to form sentences. Being against cruel animal slaughter is something everyone should support but being vegetarian is a personal choice. Human's eat meat.

If she still tries to say you're wrong after that say that she's inspired you. Do some research on pro vegan arguments. Not only won't you eat meat ever again but tell her she's a horrible human being for eating milk, eggs and cheese. See how she likes being preached to.

Well anyways, if this is about the moral part, I'd like you to ask her why it's moral to eat plants.

mm thanks a lot guys and gals

il be sure to use some of your arguments, now its just waiting until the bell rings and shes here....

pray for me

{AR}Warno wrote:

mm thanks a lot guys and gals

il be sure to use some of your arguments, now its just waiting until the bell rings and shes here....

pray for me

Eh,What part of give it up didn't you understand?

wel the problem is i cant give up now after i totaly beat her *** in the discussion, now she wants revenge and wants to kill me

girls always win, with discussions, don't even try..

well.. just end it, serious.. otherwise she is talking about it, when she got the age of 60 or so, ehh. just end it! ^^

{AR}Spinaw wrote:

girls always win, with discussions, don't even try..

cauz the "boys" let u always win

boogie wrote:

{AR}Spinaw wrote:

girls always win, with discussions, don't even try..

cauz the "boys" let u always win

dont tell em otherwise they know this secret and will fight hard.... maybe

Yggdrasil wrote:

boogie wrote:

{AR}Spinaw wrote:

girls always win, with discussions, don't even try..

cauz the "boys" let u always win

dont tell em otherwise they know this secret and will fight hard.... maybe

boogie wrote:

{AR}Spinaw wrote:

girls always win, with discussions, don't even try..

cauz the "boys" let u always win

lol exactly

boogie wrote:

{AR}Spinaw wrote:

girls always win, with discussions, don't even try..

cauz the "boys" let u always win

Nope. That's just what they comfort themselves with afterwards.

i got some good news, shes going to put it in a mail so i got some time to answer the dam thing

{AR}Spinaw wrote:

girls always win, with discussions, don't even try..

well.. just end it, serious.. otherwise she is talking about it, when she got the age of 60 or so, ehh. just end it! ^^

Nahh the only thing girls say is: Tsss..shut up!

Do you have anything gain from this debate, if so let her win, if not why bother

Osok youre way to impartial

she probably likes you or vice versa so it's kinda cute to argue......maybe you should ask her out.....that might end the fight on a good note.

Yeah but the trouble then would be he'd have to choose a vegetarian restaurant.... :S

I think if 2min is right they would have a nice evening at her house or his and not in a restaurant, just not to get in this discussion again

Yggdrasil wrote:

I think if 2min is right they would have a nice evening at her house or his and not in a restaurant, just not to get in this discussion again

Also dont buy stuff thats already made! it might contain meat!

Ninjadeer wrote:

Yggdrasil wrote:

I think if 2min is right they would have a nice evening at her house or his and not in a restaurant, just not to get in this discussion again

Also dont buy stuff thats already made! it might contain meat!

true, so go shopping and buy some food

Hawk_Strike wrote:

lol really nice 1

So, did you ever ask her out?

if it doesnt have an ID card, it can end up on my plate

Hey Warno!

It's funny reading all the replies on your 911

Now, everyone who takes the time to read this, this may take a while so might as well get a drink before you start reading this.

Let me tell you something about having discussions. There are two things you need to know in this case. First:

Alot of people think having a discussion means having to win. A discussion is not exactly about winning. It has nothing to do with who is right. At my school when having a discussion can heat up pretty fast when trying to win, cause no one likes to lose. Here's how I personally look at discussion. It has helped me out many times, pissed off alot of people handling this though. Maybe this is exactly what you need.
A discussion is about disarming arguments your opponent is bringing on. There's no having to have a stronger argument to overcome your opponents argument. Your job is disarming.

Prooving your opponent is wrong is essential!

The thing about this technique is that when you proove your opponent wrong, no one actually cares if you're right! Its funny cause if you proove your opponent is wrong, you're automaticly right, eventhough you're saying nothing but crap. You need to make sure you disarm your opponents argument, come up with your own argument that is strong enough to hold its own, so there's no chance of it being disarmed in the process. Now, a discussion is alot like playing a chessgame. You need to think 2-3 moves ahead. Doing a specific move you'll need to know exactly what your opponent is going to come up with. With that in mind, you will have to come up with an argument that will not only hold its own, but another argument to support that argument, and just to be sure have another ready to crush your opponents attempt to disarm it.

The funny thing about this is, that your opponent will only be thinking about his or her argument you've just disarmed to proove he or she is right. So when this happeneds all you need to do is to keep him or rather her in this case off balance. You need to keep her thinking of her and her alone. After a while she will basicly start to say exacly the opposite of what she said before. Once she does that, you win the discussion.

Now the second thing you need to know is: Know your opponent!
The priceless thing you know about this person is: SHE'S A GIRL!
Now, just in case i might offend some girls on this forum/server, please look at this as something to work on or use to your own advantage. No offence intended.

Now, knowing she's a girl you have something that will work for you. Girls always think they are right. Not only the fact that they think they are always right, they usually get pissed off when you say something that they don't like to hear. For example: 'Girls are golddiggers.' Now, most girls get pissed off when you say something like that. It's sort of offensive, and not only that, but what you're doing is basicly putting all the girls in one box. Esspecially if its not true for that specific girl she will get mad cause of it. Anyways, what happeneds when she gets mad is, she forgets to think rasionally. Its a sort of defencemechanism most girls have. Sort sense of 'justice'.

We had some sort of discussion at school about the subject: "Some men may merry multiple women". Saying something like that the first thing a girl would come up with would be: "Its discriminating and offencive against females! What about the female needs?!"
So I came with statistics about 'female needs' stating that girls lose interest in specific subjects men still have after a specific age, to disarm their argument.

The thing i'm trying to say here is that most girls mostly have this thing about not being able to accept when they are wrong. Thats what you'll need to use. As soon as you can make her stop being able to think rasionally her brain will kind of block normal flow of thought. When you pull that off you'll be able to close down the discussion making her starting to repeat what she said before. At that point you can remind her that she already said that and you didn't agree cause of the argument you used to disarm that argument.


You could use different techniques to pull all of this off, the way you do it is up to you.
For all the girls that might be reading this, please do not feel offended in any way. It's something I've not only noticed at school when we were having discussions, but also throughout other occasions. Just because it applied in my cases, and might apply to Warno's problem doesn't mean it would have to apply to your personality. You could be the complete opposite, in which case this technique might not work.


Warno, finaly you should know something that might help you. Tell her that she should fix the crap in her own life before she becomes our 'worldsavior/hero'! She can't tell you she doesn't have any crap, cause everyone does have something to fix.

Besides that, eating meat has been in the human culture for decades, how's that supposed to change any time soon? Why should it change? It's been keeping balance on earth for so long already.... With that said starting to eat plants, wouldn't that kill the animals who are depending on plants? Thinking about humans having the technology to simulate the nessesary vitamins and nutrisionstuff, who says that's healthy? HEY! WHO ACTUALLY DEFINES THE WORD HEALTHY? Who's to say something is healthy or not? Doctors? Who says the opposite isnt healthy? So it means to live longer..... Who says living longer is healthy for the humanbody? Thats what we all think, but who can actually proove that thats what its all about? Maybe we arent supposed to live longer.... Who knows!

Get what I mean Warno?

Hope this helps

Edit: For the people who didnt get that drink..... WHEN I SAY GET A DRINK, IM ACTUALLY SERIOUS!
for the people who did.....Nice! Who says you cant read something while chilling and making yourself comfy eh?

By the way....Keep in mind that a discussion is not to make enemies
Its just a friendly game of chess.
Shake hands afterwards!

Giggles

wel triassic you are my kinda guy

discussions indeed have nothing to do with who is right

when someone says black i say white and i immideately start to argue about it

and if i argue with a girl, sometimes it's just to ...easy

they easily get offended and start saying stupid things.

but this one is kinda special, she is also the daughter of my ex boss(hippie)

btw: she asked me out ;-)

but i said no because i don't really like her enough :-)

end of story

thats unromantic

wel yes, there are a few things in my life that i have learned so far

one is: life sucks and then you die, so fck the world and lets get .....

but thats of course a bit pessemistic

but its better to not go out with her then get a real bad lame date
(for her and for me that is)

Wow, thats rather creepy

Maybe its because you held your own that shes asking you out?
And dating the daughter of your (ex)boss is a little weird if you ask me, eventhough he used to be your boss. Its still nice of her

...But then again its still creepy

yes bu she was very nice (and yes its a woman)

to be honest, i liked the mother more (and yes now al you pervs can make lame jokes about it ;-))

Eh...her mother?

You do know her mother is the older version of her right?
So basicly she will end up to be her mother

Might as well take another look at the younger version

BECAUSE PLANTS HAVE FEELINGS!

word

plants re here 2 b smoked... especially tobacco... no feelings

nils wrote:

BECAUSE PLANTS HAVE FEELINGS!

good arguement nils, thanks finaly some contribution to the subject

Bleh!

now can we lock this lolz

Nah it's too much fun

hehe right major (;